VERSATILE DEBATERS WIN ON BOTH SIDES

College athletics were both upheld and condemned successfully by the University affirmative and negative debating squads, which defeated the Brown and Wesleyan speakers respectively in the first triangular meeting of the Eastern Intercollegiate Debating League held on Saturday night. The negative team which met the Wesleyan debaters in Paine Hall of the Music Building, and the affirmative squad which faced Brown at Providence, both received a 2 to 1 vote from the judges after arguing the question, "Resolved: That this House deplores the condition of athletics in eastern colleges."

Audience Vote Goes Against Crimson

The affirmative team of F. W. Lorenzen '29 and Barrett Williams, although victorious in the eyes of the judges, were not the choice of the audience which voted 20 to 17 for the Wesleyan team. No popular vote was taken at the Providence meeting. F. S. Tupper '26 and Garroll Sibley '28, the members of the affirmative team, met the Brown squad on the same question.

The main point of the Wesleyan speakers was that the present athletic program has failed to live up to what they termed the "democratic ideal". The traditional figure of the tall wagging the dog was discarded by the losers for one of more ancient derivation, that of the camel crowding the Arab out of his tent.

Hold Football to Support Democracy

The University team concentrated on two main points. The first was that of the present system of athletics, including the money making power of football, supports one of the fundamental elements of the "democratic ideal", namely, inter-class and intra-mural sports. The second argument in their defense was that the publicity ensuing from success in sports is not necessarily an evil but other a natural reward for the person who reaches the top in any line of effort.

At Brown, the first speaker of the evening was Broda, captain-elect of the football team, who attempted to show of the increase' emphasis given to athletics is improving the condition of sports in better coaching, improved rules, and better fairing facilities.

Tupper, the second speaker for the University pointed out the defects in the present conduct of athletics. One was that the public no longer thinks of college as a place where, as President Eliot once said, "one acquires knowledge and pairs character", but merely as a place where football is played.